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Recommended Builds
« on: March 28, 2016, 09:14:20 PM »
Soul's Why by a Xbone build
BioStar Hi-Fi A70U3P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138415
AMD Athlon X845
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1N83Z86709
Zotac Geforce GTX 750 Ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500349&cm_re=gtx_750_ti-_-14-500-349-_-Product
G.Skill Aegis 16gb 2x8GB Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231746
Cougar Spike Black Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811553011
Corsair CX430
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
Adata SP550 120GB SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211983

Without deal hunting this rig comes in at $376 and is more then enough to get anyone into 1080p gaming

GaK_45's 5 Year Rig

Z170 Sabertooth
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132639&cm_re=Z170_sabertooth_Mark_1-_-13-132-639-_-Product
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132639&cm_re=Z170_Sabertooth_Mark_1-_-13-132-639-_-Product

i5 6500 no need to oc as its 3.2 boost to 3.6Ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117563
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117563&cm_re=intel_i5_6500-_-19-117-563-_-Product

Crucial 16GB Ram Ballistix Sport LT 2x8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148985&cm_re=Crucial_16GB_Ram_Ballistix-_-20-148-985-_-Product
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA66K3RZ1999&cm_re=Crucial_Ballistix-_-9SIA66K3RZ1999-_-Product

PNY gpu  980 'should'ensure 1080P or better for 5 years
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133580&cm_re=NVIDIA_760-_-14-133-580-_-Product
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133580

corsair PSU 750 RMi
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139137
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139137

4TB Black HDD FZEX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236622&cm_re=4tb_black-_-22-236-622-_-Product
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236622

500GB SSD  Samsung 850 Pro or Intel 730
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4S82FM0374&cm_re=Intel_730-_-20-167-192-_-Product
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4FT3V00842&cm_re=intel_730_480gb-_-20-167-192-_-Product

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147361&cm_re=Samsung_850_Pro-_-20-147-361-_-Product
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?
Item=N82E16820147361&cm_re=Samsung_850_Pro-_-20-147-361-_-Product

Case Frac Define R5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352048&cm_re=Define_R5-_-11-352-048-_-Product
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352048&cm_re=define_r5-_-11-352-048-_-Product

Total: 1672 USD with Sam 850  or 2416 Cad with Sam 850
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Re: Recommended Builds
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2016, 03:14:03 AM »
Some options for build one. This is what I would change while keeping the budget pretty much identical.

I wouldn't go smaller than 240gb SSD for a computer that will do more than general use. Normally I am not a huge fan of these, but it's a good option while keeping costs down. Prices are compared to what your links are currently showing.

+$21 to go to a 240GB OCZ Trion 150 (not the Trion 100) SSD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820228142

-$27 Drop to a single 8gb stick of ram. Its enough to run without major issue for now and a very easy upgrade to drop a second stick in later.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313551

OR you could swap the SSD as per above, and then go to a skylake pentium (CPU/MOB would be $8 cheaper and ram is the same price):

-$4 Gigabyte H110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128873&cm_re=gigabyte_h110-_-13-128-873-_-Product

-$4 Pentium G4400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117625

-$27 for 8GB stick of G.Skill aegis 2133 (same price as 8gb DDR3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232248
« Last Edit: March 29, 2016, 03:16:01 AM by Bond007 »
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Re: Recommended Builds
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2016, 03:24:22 AM »
For GaK's build my only thoughts would be:

1. If not OCing or SLI, then I would save a bunch of $ and drop to a well featured H170 motherboard.

2. Save $20-30 and get one of these fully modular gold rated XFX PSU (Seasonic OEM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207029
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207028

3. I would drop to 2TB storage, but I know others would need 4. Personal call.
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Re: Recommended Builds
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2016, 06:46:53 AM »
Some options for build one. This is what I would change while keeping the budget pretty much identical.

I wouldn't go smaller than 240gb SSD for a computer that will do more than general use. Normally I am not a huge fan of these, but it's a good option while keeping costs down. Prices are compared to what your links are currently showing.

+$21 to go to a 240GB OCZ Trion 150 (not the Trion 100) SSD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820228142

-$27 Drop to a single 8gb stick of ram. Its enough to run without major issue for now and a very easy upgrade to drop a second stick in later.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313551

OR you could swap the SSD as per above, and then go to a skylake pentium (CPU/MOB would be $8 cheaper and ram is the same price):

-$4 Gigabyte H110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128873&cm_re=gigabyte_h110-_-13-128-873-_-Product

-$4 Pentium G4400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117625

-$27 for 8GB stick of G.Skill aegis 2133 (same price as 8gb DDR3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232248

I do like the pentium option as you then have a upgrade path later on where with the amd you are more or less stuck

good options
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Re: Recommended Builds
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2016, 02:48:22 PM »
For GaK's build my only thoughts would be:

1. If not OCing or SLI, then I would save a bunch of $ and drop to a well featured H170 motherboard.

2. Save $20-30 and get one of these fully modular gold rated XFX PSU (Seasonic OEM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207029
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207028

3. I would drop to 2TB storage, but I know others would need 4. Personal call.

The idea is a build that you dont have to touch for five years. Very few mobos offer 5 year warranties. Thus the saber Z170. 2TB vs 4TB is personal pref. I think just through shear accumulation most will go over 1.2TB (ie 60% of a 2TB'er) before 5 years are up. I too like Seasonic and its another great option. :)
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2016, 11:35:27 PM »
I forgot to say this thread is a good idea. It wouldn't hurt to have a build suggestions kind of thread that gets updated over time. What you have are two examples, but you could also do something like htpc, gaming, workstation. I know it's all time consuming, but just a thought.
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Re: Recommended Builds
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2016, 06:46:26 AM »
I forgot to say this thread is a good idea. It wouldn't hurt to have a build suggestions kind of thread that gets updated over time. What you have are two examples, but you could also do something like htpc, gaming, workstation. I know it's all time consuming, but just a thought.

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2016, 06:53:49 AM »
Did you hack our shoutbox? haha that's our exact plan :)

Haha. Great minds I guess.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2016, 12:46:05 PM »
For many consumers choosing the ‘right’ Solid State Drive can be a daunting task. After all there are almost countless brands out there competing for your hard earned dollars… and many of these so-called ‘manufactures’ do not have a track record to be proud of.
As such here is a few examples of SSDs that I personally use in my own systems and systems I build for other people. This is not an exhaustive list. There are plenty of great SSDs that are not on this list. This is just some good, safe choices.

Right now there are basically three general types of Solid State Drives to choose from: SATA, M.2, and PCIe. Each type has their own strengths and their own weaknesses, but generally speaking there are three types SATA, M.2. and PCIe… and I have given good options for the majority of people but there are exceptions to the rule. So I will include the exceptions.
Please note the 256GB class of drives is the smallest I would go but consider 512GB or greater versions IF you can afford them. They sometimes have better price per GB ratio, and usually are a bit faster than the smaller versions. Also when I say ‘256GB’ that means everything from 240GB to 256GB…. as they ALL are 256GB drives just with different over-provisioning applied to the same amount of NAND.

SATA:
This is your classic SSD. Everyone and their dog has at least one model to choose from. However, in the majority of cases the model I reach for is the Crucial MX200. Its blend of good enough performance, with good enough price, combined with a good 3 year warranty make it a safe choice.
$87 USD  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148948&cm_re=MX200-_-20-148-948-_-Product
Or
$115 CAD  http://www.ncix.com/detail/crucial-mx200-250gb-2-5-sata-54-104896-1130.htm

Other good options are
-   The PNY XLR8 CS221. This drive has a very good controller (arguably better than the Marvel used in the MX200) and uses excellent Toggle Mode NAND (arguably better than the IMFT 128-gbit NAND used in the MX200). Add in a longer warranty and there is a lot to be said for this model. The only minor issue is PNY is not as firmly estabilised as Crucial (nor backstopped by a NAND mfg’er like Crucial is).
$85 USD   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178970&cm_re=PNY_CS2211-_-20-178-970-_-Product
Or
$112 CAD http://www.ncix.com/detail/pny-cs2211-240gb-2-5-sata-6f-128260.htm


-   The Kingston HyperX Savage. Another safe choice…. as it uses the same controller as the CS221 and uses equally good Toggle Mode NAND. You will only get 3 years instead of 4, but Kingston has been around since the early days of SSDs (many ‘old timers’ will still have fond memories of the original Kingston V-40 that Intel killed and made into their own ‘V-40’ line).
$85 USD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104552
Or
$110 CAD http://www.ncix.com/detail/kingston-hyperx-savage-240g-2-5-bb-108182-1834.htm

The exception:
Most SATA purchasers place a high value on price vs performance ratios. For some though that can not use M.2 or PCIe drives performance is important. These consumers will want to look long and hard at the Samsung 850 Pro. Good controller, good NAND, good warranty, (relatively) great performance… but at the cost of being more expensive.
$140 USD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147360
Or
180 CAD http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-850-pro-256gb-2-5-35-99904-1804.htm

M.2

These drives are faster than SATA drives but not necessarily THAT much faster. There is basically one option I use:
Samsung 950 Pro. Fast, powerful, moderately expensive.
$182 USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147466&cm_re=950_pro-_-20-147-466-_-Product
Or
$280 CAD: http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-950-pro-256gb-m-2-ce-118218-1804.htm

The Exception: Your system can not handle x4 PCIe based M.2s OR you want inexpensive but don’t have room for another 2.5” drive in the case. These will be SATA based models and as such no faster than a SATA 2.5” drive… just in a different form-factor. Please note most rigs will disable 1 or even 2 SATA ports when a M.2 SATA drive is used… so do your homework and understand these are NOT a way to get an extra SATA drive on your system.
Crucial Mx200 M.2 (also comes in mSATA if your rig is ancient… and even short 2260 version but will be slihgly slower than 2280 version…. Look for ‘D4’ and not ‘D6’ at end of model number if you want 2280 version)
$90 USD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148955&cm_re=MX200-_-20-148-955-_-Product
Or
$130 CAD http://www.ncix.com/detail/crucial-mx200-250gb-m-2-2280-21-107525-2018.htm


PCIe
Balls to the wall fast. Want the best and can afford the best… these are what you want: Two models are the ones that I use and recommend:

Intel 750. Soon to be EOL’ed but still extremely potent. Comes in two flavors AIC and U.2. Most will want the Add In Card PCie card form-factor…. Not the 2.5” U.2 form-factor. Both are the same just different form-factor.
Smallest size is 400GB
$350 USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167359&cm_re=intel_750-_-20-167-359-_-Product
Or
$450 CAD: http://www.ncix.com/detail/intel-750-series-400gb-nvme-72-116862-1978.htm


Samsung 950 Pro. See above. It’s a NVMe drive just in a smaller package.

The Exception: You don’t want to spend a fortune but A) don’t have a M.2 port and/or B) don’t have any free SATA ports. Answer: purchase a x4 PCIe to M.2 adapter card. They come free with many motherboards. If not purchase one from Amazon… just make sure it’s a x4 PCIe.


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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2016, 09:11:05 PM »
If you want to save some money drop the 750W down to the RM550X instead. Chances are with Z170 you won't need more than 350W running full tilt. So you still have headroom.

I'm running a i7 4770K and 780 and I pull 340W at full kick.

You should be fine dropping it down some.

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