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MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« on: July 29, 2015, 01:19:58 PM »
My first Memtest run on MSI X58 Pro-E:


Hopefully you guys at least have good laugh. When I fixed the settings, I get 10 800MB/sec speeds w/o any tweaking or overclocking, but this first run was kind of fun :) I bet John is recognizing the rams, hehe. I had to borrow them for the testing, the triple channel kit is en route... :)

First experience: the board is tolerable to lamers  ;D I was not know, what FSB set on the jumpers (133, 166, 200), so I choosed 166MHz, while X5650 Xeon should have 133 (133x20 = 2660)  ;)

Stupid me, but the board hapilly posted and running well even since. 32C CPU temp? WTF...  ::) But chipset is heating up pretty well, time to remove the gum crap TIM and apply AS2 :)



My rams are still on the route, so I was just toying with the mobo. WinXP refused to see my HDD, so I had to install Win7 32bit stripped down version, as I'm starting to navigate in the bios options :)

http://valid.canardpc.com/jksvby

SuperPi 1M run is 11.1 something sec, but that is nothing Earthshaking, as typical is 9sec:
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/superpi_-_1m/rankings?hardwareTypeId=motherboard_22706&cores=#start=0#interval=20
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2015, 03:01:59 PM »
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2015, 03:01:59 PM »

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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2015, 03:13:58 PM »
Nice rig I really liked my 1366 rig.

Keep us posted on how the OCing goes
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2015, 05:33:11 AM »
Yep, I like the LGA 1366 rig because it let me install WinXP on it - and it is significantly faster that my WinXP P4 rig  ;D Of course 64bit OS is the only way to fully utilize the system, but I can settle for less memory / power. Just to get quiet operation and faster WinXP performance. And it looks like that the machine is speedy.

OC is not going very well, I started playing with the setting more seriously (before the Vcore was just at auto - how much the mobo determine necessary go there) and I get close to 4GHz, but no more - 3972MHz:
http://valid.canardpc.com/5k0kaw
http://hwbot.org/submission/2935495_

Rams from Wizerty recieved today. Corsair Dominator GT (CMG6GX3M3A2000C8) rated at 8-8-8-20 @ 1T at 1.65V and 2000MHz (effective, 1000MHz real) by XMP profile only (JDEC settings are conservative 9-9-9-24 at 666MHz for best compatibility).

Finally I got 1T rams! :)

MSI X58 Pro-E posted with these triplechannel rams right away and just fine. http://valid.canardpc.com/g8j4hi They need 1.72Vdimm to be benched at 6-6-6-18 timings,  tough: SuperPi 6-6-6-18 1T @ 833MHz, 1.72Vdimm
http://hwbot.org/submission/2935826_trodas_superpi___1m_xeon_x5650_11sec_203ms


Cinebench 11.5 (32bit only OS&test, so score suxx) 6-6-6-18 1T @ 833MHz, 1.72Vdimm
http://hwbot.org/submission/2935830_trodas_cinebench___r11.5_xeon_x5650_8.14_points


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On more serious note, they can do 7-7-7-20 1T @ 903MHz, 1.72Vdimm


And the look is impressive:


...now can they let me tough 4G or not? First testing suggest that they might, but then it crashed when booting to Win7, so... not that good... Time to fiddle more seriously :)
« Last Edit: July 31, 2015, 05:40:24 AM by trodas »
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 10:30:28 PM »
Hi, very intresting how you can setup Multiplier to x22!?
i have same CPU and MB but in bios i can setup only 21 that back to x20 then i testing
http://prntscr.com/9avfhh
can you share your secret?
thank you
Alex
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 08:17:49 AM »
Hi, very intresting how you can setup Multiplier to x22!?
i have same CPU and MB but in bios i can setup only 21 that back to x20 then i testing
http://prntscr.com/9avfhh
can you share your secret?
thank you
Alex

I just did a little research on this chip and found the multiplier is locked to the ram speed. Sounded odd to me but I am sure trodas will know better
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2015, 02:12:32 PM »
Hello, will do now test of your idea

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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2015, 07:35:52 AM »
Well, my chip is Engineering Sample (see the ES in CPU-Z validation: http://valid.x86.fr/6cr7g9 ), witch might answer the question :) Currently I was tried on it the MSI GTX 960 Gaming 4G card and it works surprisingly well, clocked only at 3400MHz is i reasonably quiet, yet games like BF3 fly on it.

Only while recording at the same time the 960 get out of it's steam rather quickly even in 1280 x 1024 res- there is a example:



I trying to quiet the CPU cooling, before I put the machine in case, so... work in progress.  Surprsingly, when used testing with FurMark on WinXP, the GTX 960 perform faster that on Win7 x64:



Win7 x64 = 252fps
WinXP = 268fps

Win7 suxx?  :o
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2015, 11:01:09 PM »
I would like to see windows 8 results. :P

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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2015, 08:33:16 AM »
I would like to see windows 10 results :p
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2015, 05:20:09 AM »
...I would like to see Win 2000 results, but I cannot find drivers for them  :P

...

Well, if the XP > Win7 was any indication, then Win8 or Win10 results will be similar fail. Besides, I did not have Win8/Win10 and I'm sure I did not want them for anything else that testing machine(s) ...
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2015, 06:56:03 AM »
How does Win 10 compare to 8.1 in performance? Does it take a big hit on PC performance going from 8.1 to 10?

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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 04:54:14 PM »
I have no idea, I never used any higher that Win 7 system. I'm very skeptical about new versions.
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2017, 06:18:27 AM »
Hi All,

This is a very old topic, but the only place I can find any worthwhile info.

Trodas, I want to put a Xeon on my X58 Pro, but everything I can find on the web says it is not supported.  MSI only patched the X58M microcode for Xeon. Can you please tell me how you got it working?

Thanks a lot for reading.
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Re: MSI X58 Pro-E (MS 7522) and fun with Xeon X5650
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2017, 08:14:33 AM »
Hi All,

This is a very old topic, but the only place I can find any worthwhile info.

Trodas, I want to put a Xeon on my X58 Pro, but everything I can find on the web says it is not supported.  MSI only patched the X58M microcode for Xeon. Can you please tell me how you got it working?

Thanks a lot for reading.
Deon.

Which xeon are you looking at?

I will see how I can help you out just need to know the exact cpu and motherboard :)

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