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How far G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series (F3-14900CL8D-8GBXM) go...?
« on: December 19, 2015, 12:04:04 PM »
I wonder, how fast these DDR3 rams can go - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series F3-14900CL8D-8GBXM:



And what chips they use - so if there is a chance for getting them run faster with more voltage - and what is the safe (or reasonably safe?) voltage limit for them.

That, of course, apply only when the chips used react well to more voltage. So, since the G.Skill logo claims "Go Beyond Limits", then I put these poor rams into Asus Z97-Pro (WiFi ac) board. Upon activating the XMP profile by switch on the board, the rams run at 8-9-9-24 2T @ 1866MHz.

The 2T can be changed to 1T and at that point, it gives with not overclocked i7 4790K, 21 739MB/sec in Memtest 4.20. The voltage is default 1.50V. When tried to set the DDR3-2000MHz memory clock settings, the board failed to post. 1866 seems to be the maximum at such settings (rest is on auto ATM). Precise settings are bellow (most "auto" values report what they are in the bios, what is marked with "???" is not shown up - does not show it's current settig in the bios).

The question is - of course - what best settings to use for these rams (there seems to be plenty of settings, including skews) and what one can expect to get from them on tight timings. Or if relaxing the timings help to get higher and that produce faster result...?
I checked the DDR3 ram chips list there:
http://ramlist.i4memory.com/ddr3/
...yet the closest I found was: PC3-14900 Ripjaws X
F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL (2x4GB) - 9-10-9-28 @ 1.5V - Hynix H5TQ2G83CFR-H9C

Close, but no hit. So that is not exactly helpfull. And since the rams run cold (several memtest hours) at 1.50V, then I believe they might like more voltage :) So the question is only how much, or what settings will be optimal to use to get them higher. IIRC the framerate in games stop increasing at about 2100MHz, so reaching the 2000 would be cool.

Is this possible?


The Asus Z97-Pro (WiFi ac) mainboard offer these settings for memory:

Primary Timings
DRAM CAS# Latency [Auto] [1] [31] - 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay [1] [31] - 9
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [Auto] [1] [31] - 9
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [Auto] [1] [63] - 24
DRAM Command Rate [Auto] [1] [2] - 1

Secondary Timings
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay [Auto] [1] [15] - 6
DRAM REF Cycle Time [Auto] [1] [511] - 243
DRAM Refresh Interval [Auto] [1] [65535] - 7283
DRAM WRITE Recovery Time [Auto] [1] [16] - ???
DRAM READ to PRE Time [Auto] [1] [15] - 8
DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time [Auto] [1] [255] - 29
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay [Auto] [1] [15] - ???
DRAM CKE Minimum Pulse Width [Auto] [1] [15] - 5
DRAM CAS# Write Latency [Auto] [1] [31] - 8

RTL IOL control
DRAM RTL Initial Value [Auto] [1] - [63] - Auto
DRAM RTL (CHA_R0D0) [Auto] [1] - [63] - 0
DRAM RTL (CHA_R0D1) [Auto] [1] - [63] - 37
DRAM RTL (CHA_R1D0) [Auto] [1] - [63] - 0
DRAM RTL (CHA_R1D1) [Auto] [1] - [63] - 0
DRAM RTL (CHB_R0D0) [Auto] [1] - [63] - 0
DRAM RTL (CHB_R0D1) [Auto] [1] - [63] - 37
DRAM RTL (CHB_R1D0) [Auto] [1] - [63] - 0
DRAM RTL (CHB_R1D1) [Auto] [1] - [63] - 0
DRAM IO-L (CHA_R0D0) [Auto] [1] - [15] - 0
DRAM IO-L (CHA_R0D1) [Auto] [1] - [15] - 4
DRAM IO-L (CHA_R1D0) [Auto] [1] - [15] - 0
DRAM IO-L (CHA_R1D1) [Auto] [1] - [15] - 0
DRAM IO-L (CHB_R0D0) [Auto] [1] - [15] - 0
DRAM IO-L (CHB_R0D1) [Auto] [1] - [15] - 4
DRAM IO-L (CHB_R1D0) [Auto] [1] - [15] - 0
DRAM IO-L (CHB_R1D1) [Auto] [1] - [15] - 0

Third Timings
tRDRD [Auto] [1] - [7] - 4
tRDRD_dr [Auto] [1] - [15] - 6
tRDRD_dd [Auto] [1] - [15] - 6
tWRRD [Auto] [1] - [63] - 22
tWRRD_dr [Auto] [1] - [15] - 7
tWRRD_dd [Auto] [1] - [15] - 7
tWRWR [Auto] [1] - [7] - 4
tWRWR_dr [Auto] [1] - [15] - 7
tWRWR_dd [Auto] [1] - [15] - 7
Dec_WRD [Auto]
  • [1] - ???
    tRDWR [Auto] [1] - [31] - 9
    tRDWR_dr [Auto] [1] - [31] - 9
    tRDWR_dd [Auto] [1] - [31] - 9

    Skew Control
    Transmitter Rising Slope [Auto]
  • [31] - Auto
    Transmitter Falling Slope [Auto]
  • [31] - Auto
    Transmitter Control Time [Auto]
  • [31] - Auto
    Receiver Rising Slope [Auto]
  • [31] - Auto
    Receiver Falling Slope [Auto]
  • [31] - Auto
    Receiver Control Time [Auto]
  • [31] - Auto

    MRC Fast Boot [Auto] [Enabled] [Disabled] - Enabled
    DRAM CLK Period [Auto] [1] [14] - Auto
    Channel A/B DIMM Control [Enable Both DIMMS] [Disable DIMM0] [Disable DIMM1] [Disable Both DIMMS] - Enable Both DIMMS
    Scrambler Setting [Optimized (ASUS] [Default (MRC)] - Optimized (ASUS)
    MCH Full Check [Auto] [Enabled] [Disabled] - Auto
« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 12:07:17 PM by trodas »
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Re: How far G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series (F3-14900CL8D-8GBXM) go...?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2015, 07:26:13 PM »
Hi

I will try to give you a hand .
try to loosen the timings a little  and bump the voltage  to 1.6V 

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Re: How far G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series (F3-14900CL8D-8GBXM) go...?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2015, 07:26:13 PM »

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Re: How far G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series (F3-14900CL8D-8GBXM) go...?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 10:07:42 AM »
Thanks mate. What do you mean about the "loosen timings" more precisely, please? When I kept these settings (8-9-9-24 1T) and I bumped voltage to 1.65V, then it does post at DDR3-2000 ram settings. However there are tons of errors in memtest AND mainly - the speed shown up in memtest is still same 21 739MB/s. Interesting. Not stable and still same speed? What is going on?!

I probably need to tweak some advanced settings to get 2000MHz settings works, but if there are no speed increase... then it is maybe worthless?
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Re: How far G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series (F3-14900CL8D-8GBXM) go...?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 10:09:26 AM »
He means try something like 10-12-12-30 or just tweak those timings till you get your required result
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Re: How far G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series (F3-14900CL8D-8GBXM) go...?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 06:29:14 PM »
Change the Primary Timings
11-11-11-30
9-11-11-31
9-11-10-28
 these are e few witch i will try . Just lower voltage to 1.6V

 

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